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Re: [atomic-devel] Preparing for overlayfs as equal option

The current plan for SELinux/OverlayFS support is to have the OverlayFS parts merged into the kernel for 4.8 kernel.  The

SELinux parts missed the cutoff and should be merged into the 4.9.  Paul Moore the SELinux Kernel Maintainer will create test

kernels in Copr with the Overlayfs support as soon as 4.9 opens, (Next week, since he is on Vacation).  At that point we could

start testing with his kernels.  He wants to test for 2 weeks and then we could pull the patches into Rawhide and perhaps the

Centos Upstream Kernel.  Our goal then if everything is going well would be to get these patches into the RHEL kernel some time

after 7.3 in a z stream release.  Hopefully before the end of the year.

On 08/08/2016 09:22 AM, Tim St. Clair wrote:
Umm yes please.  

It's really difficult to describe how much this would help the OOTB experience for folks getting started.  

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Colin Walters <walters verbum org> wrote:
Upstream docker has a decent page:

(One thing they don't mention explicitly though is the page cache
sharing that overlayfs has over devicemapper or btfs, which can be substantial)

Though the patches to use overlayfs with SELinux are still experimental, and
not yet in our CentOS stream, I'd like to lay the groundwork for it.

In particular, overlayfs has a significant reduction in "administrative
cognitive overhead", since we can default to one LV+filesystem for
the OS that encompasses both the OS (yum/ostree) data and container
images, and hence not have to juggle LV sizes.

Another way to look at this is it makes "yum install docker" on CentOS 7
work with a single disk default.

This is all related to single node - and there are a lot of potentially
better way to manage images in a cluster, but the single node experience
is important too.  It's relevant both for desktop systems that use Docker and
Vagrant boxes, etc.

To that end:
landed, which ensures that newly formatted xfs filesystems are compatible.

Our CI then updated the installer and cloud images, so I verified that
the vagrant-libvirt box here:

# xfs_info /|grep ftype
naming   =version 2              bsize=4096   ascii-ci=0 ftype=1

There's a number of TODOs here like making it easier to default to overlayfs from Anaconda/kickstart.

But I think the important thing for us to flesh out better is transition
paths.  Obviously, one can just reinstall a node.  Many environments will
be set up to do that, but we should also support transitioning a dm to overlay
when one doesn't want to reinstall.

 I've verified that from a current CentOS AH Alpha, I can:

systemctl stop docker
rm /var/lib/docker/* -rf
# (configure docker to use overlay)
lvm lvremove atomicos/docker-pool
lvm lvcreate -n docker-images -L 10G atomicos # (TODO: also tweak this to auto-grow?)
mkfs.xfs -n ftype=1 /dev/mapper/atomicos-docker--images
mount /dev/mapper/atomicos-docker--images /var/lib/docker
# (add that to /etc/fstab too)
systemctl start docker

This keeps the atomicos/root LV with an old-format XFS filesystem and
won't give you a unified storage pool, but does give you the runtime
advantages of overlay.

Timothy St. Clair

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