Re: [atomic-devel] Kubernetes manual setup (need reviewers)

[Chris Negus <cnegus redhat com>]

Hey Scott,

Are there plans to make that public? I don't want to just repeat the work you are doing there, but I would be happy to refer to it.

Also, you make a good point about showcasing other tools like skopeo, buildah, and podman. Since we have packages for them in Fedora, I'll suggest trying them out as well.

-- Chris


----- Original Message -----
> Chris,
> 
>      Just a heads up, there is also an RPM for Origin on Fedora. In
> fact, IMHO, it is the easiest way to get a long term "test environment"
> up and running per this [1]. That article even explains how to get DNS
> working similar to an OCP install which makes it really convenient for
> somebody that doesn't have time to hassle around.
> 
> The problem with oc cluster up and all of the others is no working DNS,
> and no start on boot...
> 
> 
> [1]:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VgWYq4RGeWU9eOpiOv9fbTdWB6pFpFlycKJJKTLoo2Y/edit#heading=h.d359y1uuq93r
> 
> 
> On 03/14/2018 03:17 PM, Chris Negus wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> Make it public?
> > Here is a public link:
> >
> >     https://docs.google.com/a/redhat.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRJaraa244HAGZIn5xCPSYU85hzFVWRO0II4qAAT1YwBl3vCRA707vfxu5wMJBqVgBVxC2svwX2Xndv/pub
> >
> > -- Chris Negus
> >   
> >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018, 8:29 PM Chris Negus <cnegus redhat com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have a draft of a write-up for running Kubernetes on Fedora or Fedora
> >>> Atomic, using kubeadm, that I'd like to submit to upstream Kubernetes. I
> >>> would appreciate people reviewing the document and trying the procedure.
> >>>
> >>> Before publishing, I have a few issues that I need to get through (listed
> >>> at the top of the document). Any feedback (especially help with those
> >>> issues) would be appreciated:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s9yUkC4nj3V0CCWV18PYimIIwBBB1OGxpuMmyinA62Y/edit#
> >>>
> >>> -- Chris Negus
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> On 02/23/2018 10:43 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 10:16:46AM -0800, Jason Brooks wrote:
> >>>>>>> If we have a preferred non-manual way, we should encourage people to
> >>>>>>> use that, but I don't see what we lose from having good documentation
> >>>>>>> at a lower level too.
> >>>>>> That's totally awesome. Now someone needs to do that work. In the
> >>>>>> absence of that person, it's not dismissive to link them to a popular
> >>>>>> resource for manual installation.
> >>>>> Of course -- but what I mean is saying "You wanted to know how to do
> >>>>> Kubernetes on Fedora Atomic Host? Go do Kubernetes the hard way!"
> >>>>> doesn't come off as very friendly to someone who doesn't know that
> >>>>> "Learn ____ the hard way!" is a somewhat tongue-in-cheek meme. If
> >>>>> that's the best resource and we recommend it, let's recommend it with a
> >>>>> preface.
> >>>> Oh, I was planning to recommend Kubeadm.  Kubeadm is good enough for
> >>>> most users, these days, and it's actually a good way to test new
> >>>> Kubernetes releases.  And the Kubeadm team is enthusiastic enough to
> >>>> maybe offer us some help.
> >>>>
> >>>> My primary concern with making sure that Kube is available on FAH/CAH is
> >>>> that I want Kubernetes developers regarding AH as a reasonable target
> >>>> platform for development.  We also want to make sure not to abandon our
> >>>> existing AH+Kube users, but presumably installation docs are not the
> >>>> primary thing those users need.
> >>>>
> >>>> I wouldn't *mind* having a "the hard way" doc for FAH/CAH, but I can't
> >>>> commit to putting in the time it would require to write it, since I'm
> >>>> not sure who the target user for it is.  Someone who wants something
> >>>> "production" is going to install Origin, no?
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> --
> >>>> Josh Berkus
> >>>> Kubernetes Community
> >>>> Red Hat OSAS
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> 
> --
> 
> Scott McCarty, RHCA
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