Re: [atomic-devel] Kubernetes in containers

[Tim St Clair <tstclair redhat com>]

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Miller" <maxamillion fedoraproject org>
> To: atomic-devel projectatomic io
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 2:05:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [atomic-devel] Kubernetes in containers
> 
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Colin Walters <walters verbum org> wrote:
> > Hey, I noticed this PR:
> >
> > https://github.com/fedora-cloud/Fedora-Dockerfiles/pull/112
> >
> > What do you guys think about switching to Kubernetes-in-a-container
> > by default?  We should likely keep the Kubernetes in the Atomic Host
> > available for some time, but how long?
> 

IMHO for the whole ship to right itself, it will probably take 2+ release cycles.  


> I think ripping out something from the core of Atomic should be done
> at the turn of some kind of release milestone for each respective
> distro project just because the users generally expect large changes
> at that time.
> >

+1 

> > I know this would affect some of the Ansible and documentation work
> > out there.
> >
> > Another thing directly impacted is release engineering; this needs
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Layered_Docker_Image_Build_Service
> > to be built from the distribution.
> 
> Just to clarify, you're saying that the Layered Image Build Service
> needs to be in place so that the kubernetes container can originate
> from the distro producing project (i.e. - Fedora)?
> 
> Or were you suggesting something else?
> 
> >
> > Because Kubernetes is still highly privileged, it seems likely to me
> > that we'd still want releases coordinated with the Atomic Host releases.
> 

Yes, but the whole goal of putting it in a container should be to avoid reduce that necessity.

> +1 - From the Fedora side, I think this is something we'd want to
> coordinate with the 2-week cycle being worked on right now.
> 
> >
> > What do you guys think?
> >
> 
> +1 - I think the Atomic system should be only as large as it needs to
> be and anything that can realistically run in a container, should.
> 
> -AdamM
> 
> 

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Cheers,
Timothy St. Clair
Red Hat Inc.